‘SYRIA WAR VOTE’: UK ‘DEFENCE’ SECRETARY MICHAEL FALLON ADMITS SYRIAN ARMY HAS ADVANCED TO PROTECT IT'S BORDER FROM US, UK, TURKISH & FRENCH INVASION (23.11.2015)
The UK NATO war propaganda for the simple-minded that defies all logic and law has nevertheless had to admit that the Syrian army has advanced to protect it’s border from a NATO invasion by the US, UK, Turkey and France.
This is the very same allegedly all seeing big brother super-sized NATO that would have everyone believe it did not have a single helicopter in the air, to track an alleged errr...terrorist in a BMW in...ummm...Brussels.
the law word...well, we all know they weren't talking about law, because they have all been so busy falling all over each other, dishonestly claiming they can suspend the rule of law...anywhere
All those around the table above are obviously talking Turkey and then some.
...the syrian army are conducting a major offensive in the north [source: peto lucem]
MPs will need time to absorb case for war to be put by David Cameron later this week, says UK defence secretary
Michael Fallon, the defence secretary, has said the government will not press for a Commons vote on extending airstrikes to Syria as early as next week, saying MPs will need time to absorb the case for war to be put by the prime minister on Thursday.
Fallon was also unclear about the identity of the ground troops that would occupy territory currently occupied by Islamic State in Syria if airstrikes drove the militants from their base, referring simply to local troops or an as-yet-unformed new Syrian government.
The identity of the ground troops, and the likelihood that much of the territory would be seized either by President Bashar al-Assad’s army or different warring armies, is probably the biggest single stumbling block to David Cameron securing a Commons majority.
Cameron was in Paris holding talks with François Hollande on Monday before the French president’s visit to Barack Obama in Washington and Vladimir Putin in Moscow. At a press conference, speaking of Isis, Cameron said: “Together we will destroy this evil threat.”
Earlier, the prime minister and Hollande visited the Bataclan concert hall, scene of the highest number of fatalities in Friday 13 November’s terror attacks.
Fallon said the speed with which Cameron put the issue to a vote would depend on MPs, but indicated it was unlikely to be as early as next week. Cameron will only put the case for war on Thursday in the form of a reply to a sceptical report written by the foreign affairs select committee.
Fallon said: “A lot of new MPs understandably want to be sure there is a political track to this as well – that we are working with everyone in the region to create a more comprehensive moderate government in the region to bring long-term security after the striking has finished.”
He added: “The troops on the ground are going to be like in Iraq – the security forces of the Syrian government that can end this civil war and represent genuinely all parts of Syria whether they are Shia, Druze, Christian, Sunni or Alawite.”
He claimed the pressure was mounting on Assad through the international support group talks in Vienna, and added: “There is international agreement now that Assad has to go and there has to be a more comprehensive government.”
He acknowledged that Assad had not agreed to go, but pointed to the involvement of countries including Saudi Arabia, Russia and Iran in the talks process.
Fallon’s claim that there is an international agreement over the need for Assad to step down is likely to be challenged by Labour, not least because neither Iran nor Russia has at least in public abandoned their ally, even if they have said there should be fresh elections and a broader government.
The defence secretary said there was also a moral case for war, adding it was wrong that the fighting and risk was currently being handed to the UK allies acting on behalf of the UK government.
He insisted the UK’s high precision Brimstone missile was needed by the UK’s allies over Syria since it reduces civilian casualties.
He said any future vote on airstrikes on Syria would be very different from the vote on whether British forces should help bomb Assad over the use of chemical weapons in 2013.
Maria Eagle, the shadow defence secretary, said Labour could only reach a judgment on military action in Syria once it had seen Cameron’s case.
She did not rule out support for airstrikes, saying: “As long as MPs can see a plan that’s dealt with across the region, that is supported by all, that will work, that shows what our military input, what impact that will have, then there is a chance we can agree on a proper way forward.”
She added: “We will deal with it once we have heard from the prime minister. It is all very well suggesting that a few bombs are going to deal with Isil/Daesh. There is a coalition of 60 nations already doing that in Syria.
“We need to see that the plan that the world comes up with – and there now is a UN resolution that they have to be dealt with – will work and we have to be sure that it will make a positive difference before we are asked which way we are going to vote and before the Labour party will decide how to whip its MPs.”
Momentum, the grassroots group that supports Jeremy Corbyn’s leadership, has sent out emergency emails asking its supporters to contact MPs and tell them to oppose airstrikes.
The two faced treacherous anti-Syrian government war propagandist, Stake-knife Corbyn will not be upholding the rule of law, by bringing any successful legal challenge that opposes war, in any...court of law.
...the far from 'revolutionary' elysee kurds are just nato mercenaries
It was Roland Dumas who publicly stated, the British government were the ones who first 'fomented' what grew into the US-led war on Syria.
The British 'Labour Party' have never moved on from trying to wage war and are still very much controlled by Blair through his unelected henchman and personal rent boy 'Lord' Falconer, who Corbyn hired as his slightly more than shadowy 'Justice' Minister.
The long-time anti-Syrian government war propagandist:
may 2004: the anti-syrian government war propagandist corbyn has been trying to enlarge nato's 'kurdistan' for rather a long time
Iraq War criminals of all 'political' shades (and their apologists, like Corbyn) still infest what really is an illegitimate British 'Parliament'.
Of course the law abiding majority of civilians take President Assad seriously since he is the elected leader of the sovereign state of....Syria, which is far, far more than the sewer rat Dodds can claim.
...law abiding civilians are not going to be lectured to by iraq war criminals like dodds
A very obvious 'missing link' in the Reuters 'report' [below] into what most people would recognize as the 'Islamic State' supply line of oil for weapons etc is 'Heritage Oil' & British mercenary Tony Buckingham, who is a go to 'fixer' arranging 'private armies' under any moniker for the likes of his unelected 'Royal' Qatari business 'associates'.
What the Reuters story misses out is that Buckingham got the scam up and running before selling it on and working the Qataris and their 'Islamic State' to keep the oil scam going.
The obvious question anyone asks is what right did Buckingham have to anything?
Far from happening to 'find' oil while in search of...'democracy' anywhere, the vicious Buckingham is obviously another thief and much else.
Everyone knows that NATO illegally imposed a 'sectarian' constitution on Iraq that dishonestly purported Kurdish 'political' leaders had special rights over and above anyone else, that all are trying to repeat, in Syria.
Buckingham sold on his Kurdish oil interests to the Rothschild run Genel and went into business with Qatar to carry on the 'business' of using 'off-shore' mercenaries to inflate oil prices.
Qatar are very much behind the 'Islamic State' private army to try and inflate oil prices.
Interestingly Buckingham complained that lifting 'sanctions' on Iran would affect oil prices and therefore he and his Qatari business 'associates' profits.
31.03.2015:...so private mercenary armies like the 'islamic state' benefit (for example) buckingham, qatar and saudi arabia
Of course 'traders' like Vitol Oil make their huge profits by shifting oil around on the black market.
It is a matter of public record that Vitol Oil paid to put their bagman Alan Duncan in the British Parliament, so they had the taxpayer funded 'services' of MI6 to overthrow Gaddafi.
Of course we must not forget their very good friends Murdoch & Co either.
It was the Murdoch mouth who first publicized the 'Islamic State' moniker when the Kurdish oil tanker was caught out in a legal battle in international waters off the US.
The only way the British government have been able to wage war is by illegally using state violence against law abiding civilians to try and stop successful legal challenges to what is very much corporate war, in courts of law.
"cellular vaporizers":...another barking mad idea from GCHQ ?
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